And when I say Transgenics, I mean cybrids, hybrids, chimeras, etc. (Humanzee, humouse, geep, GMO crops, etc) As this is already highly controversial subject, and it will become even more in the next few years, I want to see some opinions on it. Here are a few questions you could pick from: 1. Where is the line between human and animal? (ex. An experiment on mice gave the mice "human brains", does that make them a human or an animal?) 2. What purpose, in the case of a human, would be to creating a transgenic human? 3. Do we understand transgenics enough to be using it? (In which, we already are using transgenics, but the question is should be using it.) Don't ask me on my position, I'm a neutralfag.

Oops, I should have said human brain cells. Silly me~

It's an abominable practice to try to mate man with beast. That's all there is to it.

[quote]It's an abominable practice to try to mate man with beast. That's all there is to it.[/quote] Would that include insulin?

[quote]Would that include insulin?[/quote] what type of insulin?

Insulin from recombinant e.coli and yeast.

1. It doesn’t matter to me what species it technically would be. What matters is, are they sentient? (able to feel sensations and be conscious of surroundings) If so, they deserve basic welfare rights the same that other animals have. Are they sapient? (able to use tools, invent things, speak and understand a complicated language, etc) If they’re both sentient and as sapient and intelligent as humans, then they should have all rights that humans enjoy 2. I really don't know why someone would want to. I mean, a lot of people unrealistically think that if you were to cross a cat and a human, you'd get a super kawaii anime cat girl ^____^!!11 But realistically, you'd probably get a deformed sickly thing that dies after about an hour of life. 3. I don't think it would be safe enough. Things like mules and ligers that belong to the same genus are already unhealthy and don’t live long, crossing species to even further unrelated species would probably be a lot worse.

Summary: DOG HUMPING.

[quote]Summary: DOG HUMPING.[/quote]and hores, chicken, donkeys, cats, and a hhhollowed out snake. yeah its a regular redneck orgy it is! :smile:

Well, I would say that attempting to screw around with evolution is a pretty bad idea. Using insulin, however is a different thing entirely. If I were to take a horse and think, "oh, I should make a man-horse out of this!", that's decidedly unethical. Using insulin from an animal to help improve the life of someone who is already alive is not unethical. The difference here is that using insulin doesn't change the way things work. You're simply putting the insulin into the body, and it does its job, much the same way human insulin would work. Humans didn't change the insulin, they just collected it. Of course, there's the ethical question of whether it's right to take insulin from the animals in the first place, but that's a different argument completely.